Monday, January 23, 2006

The Jesuits Exposed info Part 3

From http://s13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=4624


Lenny's site is CLOAK AND DAGGER http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/ for serious information please attend this site -2tuff

Dear Lenny,Untermyer is another one of the Pope's Masonic Court Jews---like Bernard Baruch and Arlen Specter. He was indeed a party in the American Jewish Congress's refusal to help the European Jews escape the Pope's Nazi net. Untermyer was connected with the CFR via the New York Times and he was the friend of the evil Reformed Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, who also aided in Masonic FDR's refusal to save the European Jews.Regarding Daryl Bradford Smith, he attacked my presentation immediately after an interview with Dr. Bill Deagle on the Genesis Network a few months ago. I regard Mr. Smith as a real Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor and anti-Jew proponent.I trust this is helpful.

Sincerely in Faith,

Brother Eric

----- Original Message -----

From: Lenny Bloom
To: Eric Jon Phelps
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:47 AM

Subject: Fwd: Samuel Untermyer's speech

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS EMAIL ABOUT THIS GUY UNTERMYER---------- Forwarded message

----------From: Liberty London <>
Date: Jan 20, 2006 2:49 AM
Subject: Samuel Untermyer's speech
To: lenny Bloom lennybloom@gmail.com

Samuel Untermyer's speech Samuel Untermyer was the chief Zionist architect ofthe 1930's, and he helped create enmity toward theGerman Jewish community. His vitriol also helpedpropel America into World War 2.Samuel Untermyer supports claims made by Benjamin Freedman in his 1961 speechhttp://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Untermyer.html


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This is me refuting an aymomyous person from Resistance Manifesto forum:

From http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/modu...viewtopic&t=682

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That's kind of the problem with this forum... The extreme generalizations that people in here like to make.. "The Jesuits," "The Mormons," "The Freemasons," "The Catholics.." I mean do you guys not know how ridiculous you sound? It's like you people are just content with making these extreme generalizations, without ever having done your research and without ever focusing on any one area specifically.

Response: This is silly. First, I'm not making any generalizations against any one. People have a right to peacefully exposed the Jesuits, Freemasons, etc. The truth is that the people who control the world are in Secret Societies and high level political groups since they influence world policy in a higher way than the average citizens. I've studied the truth for many years and read many, so to assume that I haven't done any research is your direct Lie. The truth is that the Jesuits influenced the Nazis. The truth is that Freemasonry possesses death oaths and pagan symbolism. The truth is that the Mormons believe that man can become his own god and it once discriminated agaisnt black people. The truth is that Roman Catholicism embrace many suppertisions like calling a man Holy Father and venerating images. That has nothing to do with generalizations, but it's a FACT of history. You need to learn that. It's people like you that make people intimdiated in not speaking their own minds. No, I will speak my mind and fight against evil.

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I mean what exactly, in ya'lls minds do you deam as an appropriate group? What specific type or form of christianity is acceptable and appropriate to you people? Is it the one that believes in starting and cult and owning guns and hating gays? Wow, I bet you guys are going to make a lot of progress in the world with that type of theology. I suggest instead of focusing on specific groups to hate and mark against, to build up exactly whatever truth it is you are into believing.

Response: This is silly by you again. First, many groups are evil in the world. I'm not a moral relativist in denoting every organization as good. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. As for Christianity, there are tons of evidence to see who is acceptable Christianity like the resurrection of Jesus Christ (that's the cornerstone of the Christian faith), man's salvation is not done by his own means, but by God, and other concepts that people believe for centuries. Many groups like the Jehovah Witness deny Christ's resurrection and don't even beleive in most of the teachings of Christianity, so they are rejected. Not to mention that the Jehovah Witnesses were invented in the 1800's. I don't believe in starting a cult and brainwashing people, which is another lie by you. You're telling a lot of generalizations and lies. Owning guns is part of the Second Amendment. If you don't like it, blame the Bill of Rights, not just Christians. Just shows your hypocrispy. Not to mention that the Foundings supported individual gun rights by their own quotes. Also, no real Christian hate gays or people. I hate evil. It's a fact that homosexual live a shorter lifestyle, have a dissapropriate amount of STDs, there is a pedophile connection, and other signs of their sexual lifestyle having negative consequences. THis is reported by mainstream scientists not homophobes at all. I'm not a homophobe since I'm not afraid of gay people. As for theology, people have a right to believe in what they want. Just because our beliefs systems isn't popular, doesn't mean that it doesn't have value or merit. The protestors against the Iraq War in 2003 wasn't popular, but now, it is. Popularity isn't a sign of legitimacy at all. I don't hate anyone, I do build people up, etc. Criticizing and exposing isn't necessarily hate and you fail to see the difference.

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And the Jesuits, just like any other "group" had their good and bad apples, I'm sure, but as far as I know they managed to do a lot of good in spreading the truth to some extremely hostile parts of the world. Look into the Jesuits from Spain in the 16th century, who helped the South American indians, protecting them from brutal raids and slavery, while building missions and spreading the truth of christianity. People who had a lot more faith and courage than any one person in this forum, and you are trying to saying they were evil? Read up on your history man, and don't buy into the crap you read on some of these forums. That is the only way you are really going to ever know the truth.

Response: Finally the Jesuits. You have moral relativism. First, many groups can be evil like the Nazis, KKK, etc. There is not good and bad apples with their leadership and founding since those organizations' tenets were evil. Also the Jesuits were formed in the 1500's by Loyola who wanted to prevent the progress of the Protestant Reformation, which gave you the right of free speech, expression, religion, etc. that you see today. They were involved in many assassinations across Europe in the 1500-1700's. Even the Pope banned them in the 1700's, but they've used Napeolon to existed in the Vatican. The Jesuits were involved in the assassination of leaders, funded the Nazis, spreading false Christianity (since the Bible doesn't support calling a man Holy Father, calling a woman Evervirgin, and believing in a Pope), Many Jesuits and the Vatican supported some Latin American dictators to oppress the people there, the Jesuits educated Castro, Jesuit priest William J. Fulco translated the script for the unscriptural/occultic film of the Passion of the Christ, etc. According to Reformation.org, a Jesuit priest urged people to praticipate in the Bartholomew Massacre where over 60,000 men, women, and children were murdered in France (who were Protestants). The Jesuits' origin was evil and they as a group are evil. Many other Christians opposed slavery, woke up people to the unscriptural group of Freemasonry, lead missionaries, etc. greater than the Jesuits will ever do. SOrry, I've read my history and my own blog has tons of it. Eric Jon Phelps is a genius about history and I respect him for it. You know I had to bring it.

By TruthSeeker24 (Timothy)


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Note by Me: I don't agree with Orgone personally.

By TruthSeeker24 (Timothy)

Theres many I've come across who are part of the Orgone movement and others who all agree that Jeff Rense is an agent. -2tuff

Dear Tim White, Jeff Rense and James Neff,As to my clarification concerning "The Jeff Rense Show," I have stated that I have been "avoided," although knowing not the reason why. I never said that I was "blocked."Jeff, you had me on your show several times three or four years ago, for which I was then and am today thankful, not necessarily to promote my book, Vatican Assassins, but for the simple reason of your entertaining another view; i.e., that the Jesuits, not the Jews, are the masters of this nation as well as every nation on earth via their control of the Vatican, and thus the Papacy since 1814, by means of a host of hermetic/Masonic secret societies. In fact it recently came to my attention that Jesuit-trained and Jesuit-ruled Pope Leo XIII had a Secretary of State who was a member of the Order of Oriental Templars (OTO)---Sicilian Duke Mariano Cardinal Rampolla. The same was true for Pope John XXIII and JFK assassin Pope Paul VI; Bavarian Jesuit Cardinal Secretary of State Augustin Bea was a powerful member of Italy's fascist P-2 Lodge. And by the way, one of those Masonic secret societies, the truly anti-Jewish, "Jewish" B'nai B'rith controls the truly anti-Jewish, "Jewish" ADL; and the ADL bestows the "Cardinal Bea Interfaith Award," further evidencing the connection between the Jesuit General and his Masonic Court Jews.

Years have passed, and events have continued to unfold according to the Order's nefarious plan for this country. I remember, Jeff, that at one time you called me (at my previous phone number) and requested confirmation as to the veracity of the Jesuit Oath of the Fourth Vow, also known as the Extreme Oath of Induction. You had the oath posted on your site, and had received some flak, I believe, for which I willingly complied with your request. That was the last time we ever communicated.Recently Jeff, Sherman Skolnick was on your show. He gave a very good expose' of the Jesuits, mentioned VA and I heard you respond to one of his statements that you had had me on the show "years ago." So I inferred that I might receive a call or an email from yourself just to say "hello," or possibly to extend an invitation as a guest on another show. But there was no call received, or mention made that you might consider having me back. As you must know, it is easy to touch base with me; my website discloses my email address and a simple "google search" would reveal the same. With that, you could easily obtain my phone number, once contacted via email. So I dismiss the argument that several attempts were made to contact me over the last several years, James. I am quite public and easily accessible if any party so desires.Now my policy is to never solicit a speaking engagement or an interview with anybody, as well as to send in any article to any forum without a request from the host of a particular website. I believe for an author to engage in such behavior is to discredit his work and implies a certain self-importance unbecoming to the demeanor of any researcher. If there is no call or standing request for any developing information, then there must be, in fact, no continuing interest on the part of the host.

Further, your show, Jeff, is in fact YOUR show and you are under no obligation to extend an invitation to anyone, save only those of your choice.However, it has been my observation over the last five years that the majority of radio talk show hosts known for their bold and brave attempts in bringing to light the secret power behind an international conspiracy intending to establish a "New World Order"---as Georgetown University Jesuit Edmund A. Walsh calls it in his Total Empire written in 1951---has graduated to what I consider another subversive level of the Black Pope's grand design. That determined graduation of which I have warned---so inimical of England's Jesuit-backed Fabian Socialists via the RIIA---is the seemingly universal "confession of faith" that it is the Zionist Jews, and thus, by logical extension, all Jews in general who are the real masters of deceit, "the barbarians within the gates;" these are to blame for the universal bloodshed of the Twentieth Century! Clay Douglas, was my very first interviewer after Spectrum's release of the article, "The Black Pope; the Jesuit's General." He pictured Jesuit Superior General Peter-Hans Kolvenbach on the front page of his New American magazine. But over time, Mr. Douglas has gone down the slippery slope of injustice to Biblical truth, becoming a first class, anti-Jew, anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian agitator forever ceasing to entertain "the Jesuit Question." Other agitators who have refused to interview me outright---not that they owe ME anything, but owe the PUBLIC everything, including this most suppressed Jesuit conspiracy world view---are Texe Marrs, Alex Jones, Joyce Reilly, Art Bell, and Chuck Morse, all of whom I have publicly called "Jesuit Temporal Coadjutors." I do not enjoy the task, but it is a clarifying necessity.

There are others who have acquitted themselves as men regarding "the Jesuit Question," as opposed to "the Jewish Question." You Tim (although I object to your language when profanity is employed) have proved to be quite bold in this regard, and most correct on such topics as "The Secret Treaty of Fort Hunt," involving the Jesuits via OSS "Wild" Bill Donovan and CFR/OSS Allen Dulles aided by FBI J. Edgar Hoover. That verbal agreement, which crime motivated the U.S. government to "move heaven and earth," saved some of the most criminal Nazis of the Reich. You, Tim, were raised as a Roman Catholic, but now understand it is the Vatican's Jesuits who "rule the roost" here in Fourteenth Amendment America. Racial Jews Nelson Thall (alias "Lenny Bloom") and Sherman Skolnick are the only hosts who have continually invited me to return to their show, giving me complete liberty to articulate my historical discoveries relating to the diabolical actions of the Jesuit Order. "Vyzgoth," of "The Grassy Knoll," has hosted me several times, and will continue to do so. Recently, via a series of interviews, Bible-believing Christians Derek and Sharon Gilbert of PID Radio have been very kind in also giving me the opportunity to articulate the Company's design and bloodletting of the last century. Apart from these three hosts, no one has asked me to return to their show---including you, Jeff.My question is, "Why?" Why is it "crap," James, that I should wonder why I feel distanced from the Jeff Rense Show for you, Jeff, not facilitating an interview during the last four years?

I am most justified in this disappointing conclusion especially when your site, Jeff, tends to host and entertain the "Jewish Question" orientation, or rather agitation, of conspiratorial history. James, "thou dost protest to strongly." Something is wrong here, and I truly hope the problem will be rectified. For if we, the informed fringe group of the American people, continue to give utmost credence to "the Jewish conspiracy" version of recent history---rather than blaming Rome, "that great city which reigneth over the kings of the earth" (Rev. 17:18)---, then North America will go down in a horrendous conflagration as did Germany---which chose to blame the Jews for her undoing, rather than the Jesuits who, though expelled by Bismarck in 1872, brought upon her The Second Thirty Years' War (1914-1945). For as the Scripture saith to Abraham and his physical "seed," or descendants:"I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee; . . . " (Genesis 12:3)And,"For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed." (Malachi 3:6)I await your replies, gentlemen, and may I not be forced to conclude that both of you, Jeff and James, are the Jesuit Temporal Coadjutors that you appear to be. May you begin to host the damning truth about the Society of Jesus, which truth Americans may squarely face and resist with manly firmness, if indeed we are to continue to be "the land of the free and the home of the brave," rather than "the land of the fee and the home of the slave."
Sincerely in Faith,

Brother Eric Jon Phelps

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tim White" phantom469366@yahoo.com

To: "James Neff" ; "Jeff Rense" jr@rense.com;
"Eric Jon Phelps" eric@vaticanassassins.org

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:51 PM

Subject: Re: Outrageous Lie----REALLY?

James and Jeff,Well now this IS interesting as Eric is alwaysavailable for interviews and by email as I am incontact with him always-just this AM I was on thephone with him for 1 1/2 hours connecting yet morevery important dots.I'm sure that somewhere in thisdiscourse is the truth but that seems somewhat elusiveas I see but I will believe Eric first since he and Iare close friends.Eric will be most happy to hear fromJeff but that is not the info I received from Ericjust yesterday about Jeff wanting Erics' articlesposted or Eric on air.I'll be very happy to make theconnection for you or Jeff to get this straightenedout but having a Jesuit trained Greg Szymanski to tellthis story is not the ticket you should be punching-Ithink you and Jeff know this as well as I.Eric can bereached at either of two phone numbers and I certainlysuggest either of you do so as soon as you or Jeffreceives this answer from me.Eric 610-589-5300A few days ago,I sent in to Rense.com an article byCarl Oglesby(I'm a friend of his)about the SECRETTREATY of FT HUNT-a MOST important article that veryfew people know about.WHY was it not posted toRense.com?

This is the mechanism used to put ProjectPaperclip into full motion and it is when this countryactually entered the Fourth Reich-certainlyirrefutable now,isn't it?I sent this to Lt Col DanMarvin so he could send it to Col Donn de GrandPre-neither of them knew of this treaty,indeed,hardlyanyone does in the military or legislativecommunities.I sent it also to Ted Gunderson yesterdayand he never heard of it either so I suggest thistreaty DOES get posted to Rense.com or I will reallyhave to wonder more about what I'm already wonderingabout now.I'm in often contact with both Colonels andTed is a close friend of mine too.Do what is right toget this rectified by posting this most importanttreaty article and I will do the same from my end toput things right with Eric and Rense.com.Any kind of athreat to me is not well taken and I can do the sameall over the internet so I suggest we all come tocenter on this and reach a consensus we can all livewith.

Tim White,Viet Nam Vet(USAF),Concerned Citizen--- James Neff neff@tcworks.net

wrote:Tim -- you should post THIS response to your "list"-- or will we be forced to run it as a headline story about more liesand attacks on rense.com that came via you??This is an abject, unmitigated lie. No 'blocking'of Eric John Phelps or his work in any wayhas EVER occurred at Rense.com or theJeff Rense Program. In fact, severalefforts to reach Phelps for another guestvisit on the program over the last coupleof years have been unsuccessful. Further,we have received zero written materialfrom him...nothing.

If this is the kind of crap Mr. Phelps believesin, it is a good thing contact effortshave failed. It is this kind of slander thatmakes truth-telling all the more difficult now.Attacks like this joke on the few remainingsources of good information are growingall the time now. - Rense.comGreg,On one hand I commend you for writing thissinceyou are a product of Jesuit education andindoctrination.On the other hand I have tocorrectyou-John Paul I was murdered 33 days into hisreign-not 39- and he was murdered by poisonadministered by those closet to him.He wasmurderedbecause of his Papal Bull ordering the Vaticanhierarchy and the entire Roman Catholic Church toberid of all Freemasons-ESPECIALLY the P2 Lodge.Hismurder was ordered by the Superior General of theJesuits-The Black Pope.

Aside from this-I find itmorethan just interesting that you are allowed topostthis to Rense when I know for a fact that JeffRensehas BLOCKED all efforts for my good friend,EricJonPhelps-author of Vatican Assassins and websiteownerof same-to ever have his material posted to Renseorbe a guest on the Rense program.Eric IS theacknowledged contemporary expert on the exposureofthe evil Jesuit Agenda so I have to ask thisquestion

-WHY is it that Jeff Rense is doing this?Tim White,Viet Nam Vet(USAF),Concerned Citizenfrom the NWO Capitol of the West(and JesuitStronghold),
DENVER---- James NeffWebmaster

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